How I Mapped Palenque – Part 4
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The year was 1999. Ed and his crew started year two of the Palenque Mapping Project. Ed recounts the story – snakes, pyramids, tombs, and a visit from the President of Mexico! Season 6, Episode 1 – aired September 1, 2024.
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Great stories, Ed–looking forward to Parts 5-9!
In the meantime, congratulations on attracting some new sponsors.
Two suggestions: (1) Post a link to the finished map in each episode’s show notes; very helpful for following the project’s (and the tale’s) progress. (2) More photos! I’ve been wallowing in Alfred Maudsley’s atmospheric old photos of the most famous structures before they were fully cleared and restored, and it is wild to imagine your similar experience a century later, just a few hundred yards away.
Good suggestions Larry! I’ll get the map linked this week and see if I can add a few more photos to the show notes, but I only want to post ones from 1999 right now.
I wish I had visuals to go with this story, so good !
Me too! I’m teaching myself how to make videos on YouTube. Then I’ll go back and turn every one of my podcast episodes into YouTube videos. I just need to find the time to get it done…
Another great episode! I was able to find and view the site map and attempt to follow along. I’m confused about which waterfall is where. Everyone’s favorite was the one just down the hill from where the old site museum was located. On my last visit to Palenque in 2022 the waterfall pools were not swimable, and being no longer allowed to explore off-trail seemed a painful reminder of how much has changed. Next time my horse has muscle pains I will know where to purchase marijuana and mushroom medicinals…glad you have gotten some sponsors. Keep up the great work!
The falls and pool you’re talking about is the Queen’s Bath. Multiple rivers in Palenque have waterfall-fed pools, but the Queen’s Bath is the only one along the main tourist trail. Pakal’s Pool is accessed from a trail that begins at the first curve of the road leading to the ruins parking lot. It’s part of the Motiepa River, around the top-middle of my map.
The relationship between buildings and the landscape and watercourses is something I wanted to understand. (I was doing a Masters In Architecture and arranged a project through George W. Andrews and Moises) I noticed that even for the buildings immediately adjacent to the river courses, the doorways usually faced away from, not toward, the waterfalls. I’ve always wondered why there weren’t buildings near the more spectacular waterfalls at Roberto Barrios and at Agua Azul. Maybe there were buildings that have since been buried by the river changing course.
I came upon a buried vault one morning near Palenque with a small hole opening in the roof and was totally thrilled to go inside a small room, and thrilled to find springs coming out of the ground with somewhat decorated openings, so I could pretend to have an indiana jones like experience. I would imagine the thrill of putting the camera inside the tomb of temple 19 must have been very special, perhaps an episode about that day would be fun.
As a non-archaeologist and neophyte Mayanist, I find the descriptions of your work fascinating. Not sure how many like me are listening, but there are terms, occasionally, that I’m not familiar with. In this episode, for example, I didn’t know what a Theodolite was. Please don’t change a thing, other than to listen to some of the suggestions that have already been made by your peers and associates, and I can’t wait to hear the next episode on Palenque. Palenque is one of the few major Mayan sites I haven’t had the good fortune to visit, but it is on my bucket list.